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A Really REALLY Quick And Prolly Dumb Thought

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Ted Russ
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One of the reasons we get “heat islands” around our cities is the lack of trees and ground to dissipate heat. But another one is the use of energy to pump heat in and out of buildings. And that process is not efficient, and the inefficiencies generally manifest as sound (a few percent, at any rate) and - heat. The majority of the energy wasted in any electrical circuit manifests as heat.

Now. If we were using purely solar energy, all the energy we’d have available would be part of what falls on the planet naturally. And we know there was a balance of insolation and exsolation.

So moving that energy from a solar panel farm to a city should - in theory and ignoring that we’re taking light energy and converting it (wastefully) to heat - pretty much balance out the same as a normal day’s solar radiation balance.

But if we’re taking energy out of fossil fuels or wind or fusion, we’re creating a new source of heat that wasn’t accounted for in the normal energy in / energy out equation.

So why are we chasing ever more powerful new sources of energy when what it appears we should be desperately looking for are ways to use the energy we have, more sparingly and without as much conversion loss?

I’ll just have a cup of tea and sit here waiting for your answers… Ya know the drill - yell yer answers from the street and stay off the lawn…

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David Penington
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The energy produced from solar panels or burning coal/oil/gas or from nuclear is a tiny fraction of the total solar radiation in. Increased greenhouse gases are trapping far more energy than our energy "production" which is why we now worry far more about emissions associated with producing wasted energy than the energy itself.

Incidentally wind power is energy that would eventually become heat energy.

The bulk of urban heat island effects are

-more absorption of heat from dark, dense, built up surfaces & their geometry

- lack of cooling from plant evapotranspiration

Heat produced inside the area from electricity & fuel consumption is secondary.

Putting dark solar panels on a white roof incresses its absorption of solar energy, but the greenhouse benefits outweigh this.

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True about the greenhouse gases. But we're about -->.<-- that far away from generating fusion power, which will be, as noted, energy equivalent to having small bits of the sun here. And that energy was inherent in atoms but never released at the rates we'll be releasing it. What I'm getting at is - have YOU ever checked how much electricity is turned into 'losses?' I.e. how much radiates off grid transformers and the lines that carry it? I can't find figures but if I efficiently load an extension cord and leave it coiled up, it catches fire. That shows that the losses in the cable are not negligible by any means. And that's only 240vac in a household situation loading a ruggedised outdoor power cord with a 1200W kettle.

My point is that rather than finding a way to use the energy we have as efficiently as possible to minimise incidental losses/conversions to heat energy, we are definitely heating our environment and I'm prepared to bet that when someone actually does the sums we'll be a bit shocked. And yes I agree with you that it's not the worst of the heat sources but if we keep ignoring these things as 'negligible' and never tot them up, we stand the risk of this rearing up and biting us in the ass in the not-too-distant future. Just like "ethyl is just a miniscule emitter of lead from your car exhaust, settle down with all that hyperbole eh, I think you're over-reacting" until it was found we spiked the level of lead globally - every corner of a sphere and that's hard to do - by dozens of times more than the millennia before ethyl petrol.

I see a scenario like this, where an apartment complex upgrades their electric supply because more tenants are installing AC units. The upgrade is of course done on the cheap using bare-spec cabling, so every AC is causing a voltage drop over the cabling and it warms the walls by a degree or two. That's enough to push a few more tenants to install AC units. And all of these little cheap heat pumps are pumping that extra degree or two outside the building. But also are inefficient so adding their inefficiency as waste heat. As a result the air temperature around that building goes up slightly. But it's nothing to worry about, right? "So what, a bit warmer outside here and being stored in walls and structures, stop panicking."

And then the next apartment building goes AC, and the next, and then the next closest city, and ....

That's what I mean. We look at a road of ten thousand miles and somehow we never see that it was composed of 633,600,000 inches all along. The inches just didn't seem all that significant until they were all in a row... 8)

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